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		<title>By: ängstlich</title>
		<link>http://rireb.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/wednesday-numbers-18/#comment-9439</link>
		<dc:creator>ängstlich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 02:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ängstlich,

Which part of East Van are you looking at?

I see a number of properties in East Van that are justing sitting there. In a two block span, there are 5 houses listed for sale. Not sure what there price are or the condition inside (perhaps overpriced and/or need major TLC?)

Commercial drive area. nothing i&#039;ve looked at is still here....alas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ängstlich,</p>
<p>Which part of East Van are you looking at?</p>
<p>I see a number of properties in East Van that are justing sitting there. In a two block span, there are 5 houses listed for sale. Not sure what there price are or the condition inside (perhaps overpriced and/or need major TLC?)</p>
<p>Commercial drive area. nothing i&#8217;ve looked at is still here&#8230;.alas</p>
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		<title>By: ObserverX</title>
		<link>http://rireb.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/wednesday-numbers-18/#comment-9418</link>
		<dc:creator>ObserverX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 04:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this one is bring your chequebook and your bulldozer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this one is bring your chequebook and your bulldozer.</p>
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		<title>By: blueskies</title>
		<link>http://rireb.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/wednesday-numbers-18/#comment-9406</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 00:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>multiple offers huh?  who knew!?

i guessed it would remain on the market for 90 days... or longer.

 and the photos did it absolutely no justice
but i guess you had to see it... oh and bring your chequebook ... ya&#039;ll gonna need it

and fergit subject or contingency  offers, that&#039;s so yesterday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>multiple offers huh?  who knew!?</p>
<p>i guessed it would remain on the market for 90 days&#8230; or longer.</p>
<p> and the photos did it absolutely no justice<br />
but i guess you had to see it&#8230; oh and bring your chequebook &#8230; ya&#8217;ll gonna need it</p>
<p>and fergit subject or contingency  offers, that&#8217;s so yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 23:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They are designed to attract a certain segment of the market&quot;

Aaron, wich segment of the market  it is?

I probably is from different segment, that&#039;s why these pictures didn&#039;t impress me too much - just gave bad vibes.

Some of  images look like Jerry Springer show -  a lot of boxes, toilet paper, durty bathrooms, mess and clutter everywhere. 

Many photos, but I didn&#039;t find any pictures with living room/bedrooms flooring, for example. 

Not very informative. 

BTW, congratulations on multiple offers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They are designed to attract a certain segment of the market&#8221;</p>
<p>Aaron, wich segment of the market  it is?</p>
<p>I probably is from different segment, that&#8217;s why these pictures didn&#8217;t impress me too much &#8211; just gave bad vibes.</p>
<p>Some of  images look like Jerry Springer show &#8211;  a lot of boxes, toilet paper, durty bathrooms, mess and clutter everywhere. </p>
<p>Many photos, but I didn&#8217;t find any pictures with living room/bedrooms flooring, for example. </p>
<p>Not very informative. </p>
<p>BTW, congratulations on multiple offers.</p>
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		<title>By: aaronbest</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al:  I wouldn&#039;t worry too much about our client and his investment.  He has done very well over the years.  

I&#039;m not sure what your problem with the photos is.  In fact your problems are baseless &amp; spiteful.  The photos are a truthful description of the house today.  They are designed to attract a certain segment of the market.  If you cared to notice I took way more than the average Realtor does, if they include any photos at all.

Again, I&#039;m not too sure why you think it would be a better idea to wait for the house to be vacant.  Potentially losing 2 or 3 months rent.  Not to mention what sort of ROI do you expect from garbage removal &amp; paint?  Anybody that comes in there will still see that the roof &amp; deck need to be replaced, and the entire house needs to be gutted and remodeled.  What you are proposing is what we call &quot;putting lipstick on the pig.&quot;  It may fool the uneducated, but every seasoned investor &amp; inspector that comes through will see right through that.

Instead of wasting time &amp; money on useless upgrades &amp; clean up.  It is way more adventitious to the Seller to create multiple offers by listing the house slightly under value.  Now we have a case of Buyers competing with each other instead of Buyers competing with our client, by bringing lowball offers in dribs &amp; drabs one at a time.

The open was a tremendous success.  I fielded over 40-50 calls within a day of the listing hitting the market.  We had over 20 Realtors and their clients come through the open.  We have 3 confirmed offers today at 3pm, and a possibility of 2 more.  Now we&#039;ll have to wait and see what the offers look like.  It Should be interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al:  I wouldn&#8217;t worry too much about our client and his investment.  He has done very well over the years.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what your problem with the photos is.  In fact your problems are baseless &amp; spiteful.  The photos are a truthful description of the house today.  They are designed to attract a certain segment of the market.  If you cared to notice I took way more than the average Realtor does, if they include any photos at all.</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m not too sure why you think it would be a better idea to wait for the house to be vacant.  Potentially losing 2 or 3 months rent.  Not to mention what sort of ROI do you expect from garbage removal &amp; paint?  Anybody that comes in there will still see that the roof &amp; deck need to be replaced, and the entire house needs to be gutted and remodeled.  What you are proposing is what we call &#8220;putting lipstick on the pig.&#8221;  It may fool the uneducated, but every seasoned investor &amp; inspector that comes through will see right through that.</p>
<p>Instead of wasting time &amp; money on useless upgrades &amp; clean up.  It is way more adventitious to the Seller to create multiple offers by listing the house slightly under value.  Now we have a case of Buyers competing with each other instead of Buyers competing with our client, by bringing lowball offers in dribs &amp; drabs one at a time.</p>
<p>The open was a tremendous success.  I fielded over 40-50 calls within a day of the listing hitting the market.  We had over 20 Realtors and their clients come through the open.  We have 3 confirmed offers today at 3pm, and a possibility of 2 more.  Now we&#8217;ll have to wait and see what the offers look like.  It Should be interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ängstlich
November 23, 2007 at 11:19 am 
“The buying frenzy/extreme buyers market is over, at least for the winter. Just because they are selling, doesn’t mean you have to buy…”

I wonder if that might only be the case by neighborhood. Where we’re looking (east van) virtually every property we look at gets multiple offers and goes significantly over asking.

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ängstlich,

Which part of East Van are you looking at?

I see a number of properties in East Van that are justing sitting there.  In a two block span, there are 5 houses listed for sale.  Not sure what there price are or the condition inside (perhaps overpriced and/or need major TLC?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ängstlich<br />
November 23, 2007 at 11:19 am<br />
“The buying frenzy/extreme buyers market is over, at least for the winter. Just because they are selling, doesn’t mean you have to buy…”</p>
<p>I wonder if that might only be the case by neighborhood. Where we’re looking (east van) virtually every property we look at gets multiple offers and goes significantly over asking.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;<br />
ängstlich,</p>
<p>Which part of East Van are you looking at?</p>
<p>I see a number of properties in East Van that are justing sitting there.  In a two block span, there are 5 houses listed for sale.  Not sure what there price are or the condition inside (perhaps overpriced and/or need major TLC?)</p>
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		<title>By: jesse</title>
		<link>http://rireb.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/wednesday-numbers-18/#comment-9396</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just reminded of a story about an East Indian immigrant who moved to Halifax and opened up an all-you-can-eat Indian buffet. He did not feel the need to make tons of money so priced his buffet very cheap, just covering his meagre living and operating costs. The problem was he had no customers -- with prices too low the inference was his food was terrible. He grudgingly raised his prices and business picked up. 

Pricing properties below market rate can sometimes backfire as it can make people that much more suspicious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just reminded of a story about an East Indian immigrant who moved to Halifax and opened up an all-you-can-eat Indian buffet. He did not feel the need to make tons of money so priced his buffet very cheap, just covering his meagre living and operating costs. The problem was he had no customers &#8212; with prices too low the inference was his food was terrible. He grudgingly raised his prices and business picked up. </p>
<p>Pricing properties below market rate can sometimes backfire as it can make people that much more suspicious.</p>
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		<title>By: jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If this was such a hot investment, I’m sure Rob has people who would have scooped it up by now.&quot;

It would be silly for Aaron to limit the potential market to a group of insiders. It&#039;s his duty to get the highest price possible and this involves advertising (MLS, newspapers, blogs ;) ) and open showings.

The property looks like it &quot;needs work.&quot; Maybe some family just got an income boost and this is the perfect buy for them. Can&#039;t hurt to find out. I&#039;d guess around $500-520K final sale after deficiencies are fully accounted for. I don&#039;t know the area too well, however trying to sell this to owner-occupiers will not fetch much of a premium given the messiness (often a sign of neglect).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If this was such a hot investment, I’m sure Rob has people who would have scooped it up by now.&#8221;</p>
<p>It would be silly for Aaron to limit the potential market to a group of insiders. It&#8217;s his duty to get the highest price possible and this involves advertising (MLS, newspapers, blogs <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) and open showings.</p>
<p>The property looks like it &#8220;needs work.&#8221; Maybe some family just got an income boost and this is the perfect buy for them. Can&#8217;t hurt to find out. I&#8217;d guess around $500-520K final sale after deficiencies are fully accounted for. I don&#8217;t know the area too well, however trying to sell this to owner-occupiers will not fetch much of a premium given the messiness (often a sign of neglect).</p>
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		<title>By: robchipman</title>
		<link>http://rireb.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/wednesday-numbers-18/#comment-9394</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.O.&#039;d

Remember this:  I recommend long term holds bought with good metrics.  The definition of &quot;good&quot; can vary within a relatively narrow band, based on the individual&#039;s place in the world.  I&#039;ve already said that this property is not good on the basis of metrics at present.  That could change or be changed, depending on the potential buyer.

On a comparitive basis it has a great price.  Extending that to saying its a hot investment requires some missing information.  However, not all good buys are hot investments.</description>
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<p>Remember this:  I recommend long term holds bought with good metrics.  The definition of &#8220;good&#8221; can vary within a relatively narrow band, based on the individual&#8217;s place in the world.  I&#8217;ve already said that this property is not good on the basis of metrics at present.  That could change or be changed, depending on the potential buyer.</p>
<p>On a comparitive basis it has a great price.  Extending that to saying its a hot investment requires some missing information.  However, not all good buys are hot investments.</p>
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		<title>By: Priced Out</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how the open went.

I live within a couple km of this house, and I think its in a good location. Near recreation facilities and schools,. Brady Bunch-era suburbia, nice family feel, cul-de-sacs. Some nearby neighbourhoods have been going downhill with grow-ops and too many poorly maintained rentals. Again, the area immediately around this house is holding up better.

It may take a while to sell. I&#039;ve seen fix-and-flips and tear-downs in the half million range sit for a long time in this part of Coquitlam. The price stats show Coquitlam has been weaker than surrounding suburbs like Port Moody, New West etc.

If this was such a hot investment, I&#039;m sure Rob has people who would have scooped it up by now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how the open went.</p>
<p>I live within a couple km of this house, and I think its in a good location. Near recreation facilities and schools,. Brady Bunch-era suburbia, nice family feel, cul-de-sacs. Some nearby neighbourhoods have been going downhill with grow-ops and too many poorly maintained rentals. Again, the area immediately around this house is holding up better.</p>
<p>It may take a while to sell. I&#8217;ve seen fix-and-flips and tear-downs in the half million range sit for a long time in this part of Coquitlam. The price stats show Coquitlam has been weaker than surrounding suburbs like Port Moody, New West etc.</p>
<p>If this was such a hot investment, I&#8217;m sure Rob has people who would have scooped it up by now.</p>
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